Los Angeles and Zacatecas: The Joys of Unspectacular Sidewalks
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On our way down the West Coast US, we stopped in Los Angeles for several days. Despite warnings and previous knowledge about LA lifestyle, we were struck by the extreme dearth of streetlife. Even in the hip neighborhoods we visited, there were only as many people on the sidewalks as in the stripmall areas of Toronto or New York.
Two weeks later, we entered Mexico. In Zacatecas, the first city we stayed in, we were impressed by the opposite sensation – people hanging out on the sidewalks all over town, even when for no apparent reason.
Reflection
There are certainly many reasons why the sidewalks of downtown LA (and many other US cities) would be less populated than the sidewalks of Zacatecas. US government taxes, subsidies, and regulation have favored the development of suburban retail stores and single-family houses while hiding the costs of car use, resulting in lower population density (fewer people to fill a given sidewalk) and less commercial activity downtown. Racial fears and prejudices keep many white people away from the inner city. Americans are socialized by the media and schools to live relatively private lives, in the comfort of our cars and homes. Factors such as these are likely present in Mexico as well, but seemingly to a lesser extent.
We were most interested, however, in something more simple – how the streetscapes were designed to encourage or discourage sidewalk use. In LA, sidewalks were often dominated by massive buildings with blank walls or windows, providing few opportunities for pedestrians to interact with their surroundings. Most buildings in Zacatecas were full of street-level doors, windows, and other openings, allowing people inside and outside of the buildings to interact. Sidewalks in LA had few places to sit, whereas in Zacatecas small ledges or steps were abundant, and well used.
Both cities boasted impressive architecture. In LA, the most celebrated architecture (such as the Walt Disney concert hall) seemed designed to create a spectacular image, to be observed individually and from afar. The theaters and statues of Zacatecas, on the other hand, not only offered an image, but also facilities for everyday human use. For example, the sidewalk ledge and dramatic lighting on the side of the Portal de Rosales gave teens a place to hang out in the evening. The steps and platform at the base of the statue allowed children to climb and a street vendor to display trinkets. Although small design features alone may not transform a sidewalk, they can certainly encourage more public social interaction, which can in turn lead to greater social understanding of different people and groups. And as Portland’s City Repair project has shown, even a small group of people can create these changes in their neighborhood.
Question
What other sidewalk features or designs can facilitate public social interaction?
On our way down the West Coast US, we stopped in Los Angeles for several days. Despite warnings and previous knowledge about LA lifestyle, we were struck by the extreme dearth of streetlife. Even in the hip neighborhoods we visited, there were only as many people on the sidewalks as in the stripmall areas of Toronto or New York.
Two weeks later, we entered Mexico. In Zacatecas, the first city we stayed in, we were impressed by the opposite sensation – people hanging out on the sidewalks all over town, even when for no apparent reason.
| outside Walt Disney concert hall in downtown LA | outside the Portal de Rosales hall in downtown Zacatecas |
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| common sidewalk in downtown LA | common sidewalk in downtown Zacatecas |
Reflection
There are certainly many reasons why the sidewalks of downtown LA (and many other US cities) would be less populated than the sidewalks of Zacatecas. US government taxes, subsidies, and regulation have favored the development of suburban retail stores and single-family houses while hiding the costs of car use, resulting in lower population density (fewer people to fill a given sidewalk) and less commercial activity downtown. Racial fears and prejudices keep many white people away from the inner city. Americans are socialized by the media and schools to live relatively private lives, in the comfort of our cars and homes. Factors such as these are likely present in Mexico as well, but seemingly to a lesser extent.
We were most interested, however, in something more simple – how the streetscapes were designed to encourage or discourage sidewalk use. In LA, sidewalks were often dominated by massive buildings with blank walls or windows, providing few opportunities for pedestrians to interact with their surroundings. Most buildings in Zacatecas were full of street-level doors, windows, and other openings, allowing people inside and outside of the buildings to interact. Sidewalks in LA had few places to sit, whereas in Zacatecas small ledges or steps were abundant, and well used.
Both cities boasted impressive architecture. In LA, the most celebrated architecture (such as the Walt Disney concert hall) seemed designed to create a spectacular image, to be observed individually and from afar. The theaters and statues of Zacatecas, on the other hand, not only offered an image, but also facilities for everyday human use. For example, the sidewalk ledge and dramatic lighting on the side of the Portal de Rosales gave teens a place to hang out in the evening. The steps and platform at the base of the statue allowed children to climb and a street vendor to display trinkets. Although small design features alone may not transform a sidewalk, they can certainly encourage more public social interaction, which can in turn lead to greater social understanding of different people and groups. And as Portland’s City Repair project has shown, even a small group of people can create these changes in their neighborhood.
Question
What other sidewalk features or designs can facilitate public social interaction?



8 Comments:
At 11:07 PM, lernerm said…
something as simple as a few benches and some trees and flowers would help. Fountains are quite nice as well - I love watching them. But it doesn't have to cost a lot of money - a wall where it's ok to write graffiti can work - it's fun to read it (if it's reasonably literate, unlike a lot of the graffit one finds in US cities). Outdoor cafes are nice, but a simple grassy area with a place for a musician to play for donations also works well. I don't think it's a specific feature or design that makes a difference, but rather an attitude. For example, in Baltimore, people will sit and congregate by the inner harbor, just looking at the water, or the same at Fells Point. But they won't do this at many other areas in the city in part because it's just not done - people would look at you as if you were crazy were you to do this on Greenmount avenue (not to mention that it isn't safe to do it on many streets). It's a self fulfilling prophecy - the more people there are on a street, the more people are willing to stop and join the others. On the other hand, if you consider that malls have replaced sidewalks for most Americans, you will find that people hang out at malls -the difference is that malls are private, and the focus of the mall is shopping - human interaction is secondary to the goal of spending money.
At 12:39 PM, Anonymous said…
josh! was city of quartz coming to mind while traveling the streets of LA? i dont think i could live in a city with no street or park life. the density of a city, the width of the roads, the modes of transportation and the scale of the buildings has a huge impact on the amount of street life. cafes that open onto the street, narrow roads, bikers/walkers/transit users, pedestrian-scale design....those are all good things.
best, brooke
At 12:23 AM, Renate said…
I wanted to build on Michael's comment about the self-fullfilling prophesy of people hanging out to look at people hanging out.
When we were in Guanajuato there was a large arts festival going on and at night the streets were packed. Josh and I were trying to figure out where to go when we spotted a guy who looked "cool" to us. We figured that we'd enjoy whatever event he was headed to, so we casually stood around the steps where he was sitting waiting for him to go somewhere. Soon we realized that he wasn't going anywhere, so we found a wall accross the street to lean against while we observed him. We soon noticed that many of the people around us weren't doing anything but loitering.
We don't loiter very often, but we found ourselves enjoying it. Spying on the indie-rock (complete w/ ironic glasses) hipster guy amused us, as did watching the other people around us. We noticed that people weren't even talking to each other that much, but seemed to watch each other in a relaxed fashion.
If we were loitering like that in a private shopping mall in the US, we'd probably be kicked out. At least we'd be kicked out if we didn't look as white as the clientele and we weren't shopping. In a public street, it didn't matter that we weren't shopping.
I know that loitering is often criminalized or at least prohibited by regulations on some public streets in the US, ostensibly for public safety. I, though, always feel more comfortable on the streets on NYC at night when there are people loitering on the sidewalks keeping an eye on things.
At 6:03 PM, Jen said…
aaah - I added a comment and then I had problems publishing. Maybe I'll add it back later.
Jen
At 2:52 PM, Jen said…
Public use of space . . . it's wonderful when it works. My whole lifestyle has changed here in Savannah, compared to living in Silver Spring MD, when I commuted to Columbia to work. I spend less time in my car. I love just going into town and walking around, seeing what I can see. I stop in small shops more often now. The layout of Savannah encourages you to walk because there are tons of shaded areas, with seats everywhere, and wide sidewalks, and a very human scale. I can't wait to move to another city where I can walk to the store and everything, without needing a car (at least, I hope that I move somewhere like that). (Savannah - while it encourages walking - is a little too non-urban for my taste for the long term)
I really hope I don't have to live in LA.
At 4:11 PM, John said…
I just feel like it's a bit silly to compare cities like LA, Acatecas, and NYC. These are cities with completely different histories, whose spatial patterns arose during distinct time periods. Spatially LA shares much more in common with more standard American cities like Minneapolis, Austin, or Atlanta, to name a few. Of course LA is going to have fewer people on the sidewalks; most of it was built around the linear axes of streetcar lines linking downtown to housing developments. These axes set the stage for its sprawling pattern full of cars.
Still, to say that LA is devoid of streetlife is really to overlook so many parts of the city, especially the Broadway and Garment Districts downtown, Venice, parts of Santa Monica, Hollywood, Koreatown, MacArthur Park. These are much different than the faceless Bunker Hill seen in these photos (where the infamous Disney Concert Hall is located). LA has far more pockets of streetlife than most American cities, excepting the ususal suspects (NYC, DC, SF, Chicago, which are all exceptions to the rule in the US). The problem is getting from one to the other, which usually involves driving. But this is true for most American cities.
No, no one has to live in LA if they don't want to, but these comments about "god, I hope I never have to live in LA" without ever visiting strike me as a bit closed. I never thought I'd live in LA either. I don't own a car, never have. I hate cars, actually. But LA in so many ways is the reality of the future of US cities, with its traffic, density, collision of cultures and diverse needs, disparities between rich and poor, concentrations of activity and culture hard to find in smaller cities. You can learn so much from a city like LA, so much about what TO do to improve cities, and so much about what NOT to do, to draw upon lessons that are so much more relevant to mid- to low-density cities in the US as opposed to the few denser, walkable ones.
LA is great in its own special ways, and gives me so much to think about. And there are so many people here working so hard to improve people's lives, improve the city's walkability, expand its transit, preserve historic buildings (of which there are so many). I come to LA's defense not so much because I think it is the best city in the world, but because I think it is a great city that people love to dislike before even arriving, if they choose to come at all.
At 3:42 PM, Anonymous said…
I want to add my defense of LA thusly:
LA is so fucking huge, just incomprehensibly huge, that it's really hard to make any sort of final blanket analysis of it. When I visited this summer for 5 short days, I went ALL OVER--Santa Monica, Westwood, Venice, Hollywood, MacArthur Park, Echo Park, Koreatown, downtown, etc.
When you guys were in LA, did you stay in majority-white neightborhoods? I've noticed that there's a cultural thing about "loitering"--i.e., white people, hipsters or not, don't dig the sittin' & hangin' with your neighbors trip, broadly (*very* broadly, I'm not suggesting stereotypes here, and there are exceptions etc.) speaking, and this might explain the white cultural-hegemonic impulse (aka racism) in anti-loitering laws.
Ahem. My point is, go to Echo Park or MacArthur Park, primarily mexican/chicano neighborhoods, and you will see people on the sidewalks. Tons of people. Walk thru BH, and you'll see no one, except maybe private security guards asking you to move along. Same thing here in DC--in Georgetown outside of the main shopping strips, there's no one, but in Columbia Heights or Shaw, weather permitting, everyone's outside, hanging around and talking to each other, neighbor kids playing, etc.
I feel about LA the way I feel about communism--I like it in THEORY, but in PRACTICE...the weather there's just too damned hot and muggy for lil' ol' me. Actually, come to think of it, I like LA *more* than communism--the food is better! :)
love,
sarah w.
At 8:14 PM, josh said…
Ok, I can deal with the blog critiques, but please, let’s not start dissing (by insinuation) the communist borcht! I lived off that stuff for a week in the Ukraine, and have many fond memories. Some respect, please.
Regarding LA, we graced quite a few neighborhoods… Westwood, Venice, Santa Monica, Pasadena, Boyle Heights, Silverlake, MacArthur Park, Little Tokyo, Bunker Hill, Chinatown, Downtown, and whatever the Jewish and Ethiopian areas near Keri’s house are called (not to mention all the places we were driven through). The photos were just from the respective downtown cores of LA and Zacatecas. As much as the masses may clamor for more, unfortunately the whole travelling in less developed countries thing places some limitations on computer and internet time :(
That said, the neighborhoods we visited in Zacatecas had *much* more streetlife and *many* more pedestrian-friendly design features, on average, than the neighborhoods we visited in LA. So perhaps the presence/absence of pedestrians was at least partly related to the presence/absence of pedestrian design-features? I’d also agree with Sarah that Hispanic populations play a role (see Mike Davis’s book Magic Urbanism). And I think we can learn a lot by comparing how people shape spaces in different cities, be it LA and Zacatecas or Salt Lake City and Birmingham (is there such a thing as a standard American city?).
Personally, I wouldn’t want to live in LA mainly because there are other places with comparable assets/appeals where I’m better able to live according to my values. In Toronto, I loved walking from my apartment in Little Italy up to Koreatown to get some walnut cake, then strolling down bustling Bloor St. and running into friends and colleagues, stopping by school, taking the subway a few stops to get home, and then biking 10 minutes to get some Trinidadian squash roti and see a show. I really value being able to quickly walk/bike/transit to the places I frequent, having cheap and accessible international veggie food, and engaging in the spontaneous social interactions of a vibrant public sphere. Unfortunately, there aren’t many cities in the US that meet those three conditions as well as Toronto, but plenty come closer than LA. LA certainly offers lots of lessons for the future, but I still prefer Chicago or New York in THEORY and PRACTICE. Not to mention Seattle, Boston, Portland, San Francisco, DC, Philly, etc. And let’s not forget Iowa City! :)
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